Bugger

A warning light and:


VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2
Data version: 20120126

Thursday,08,March,2012,17:49:39:23633

Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: VSSZZZ1PZ6R0XXXXX Mileage: 107140km/66573miles

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AA HW: 1K0 907 379 AA
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0102
Revision: 00H13001
Coding: 0006786
Shop #: WSC 06441 785 00200
VCID: 71E3A0F868B23BB

1 Fault Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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Means a new or rebuilt ABS unit. This is not uncommon, but thankfully no longer costs £1500 to fix. It’s not just VAG either, so I’m guessing Teves OEM’d these MK60 modules for lots of people.

The problem here, I’m reliably informed by BrownhillsBob, is that about 40 quid’s worth of pressure sensor (if you bought the industrial version) breaks because the element tears off. Now it won’t read zero anymore. The sensor is not available seperately….

Time for that electronics in cars discussion again? A car without ABS won’t suffer this.

4 Responses to “Bugger”

  1. Willenhall Lad Says:

    Well now it starts! Now the doors will lockup, oxygen sensor fails and the coil packs will start going. VAG is not as good as it once was as it’s all too complicated and expensive. I’m glad the Skoda is history – I’m a lot richer without it in terms of money.

  2. stymaster Says:

    Sorry, you’re wrong. VAG quality is pretty much as good as ever: There’s always been weak spots (Golf 2 tailgates, Golf 1 Bulkheads, pretty much every carb they fitted post 1980….)

    You did see the bit about Ford, Renault, Peugeot-Citroen, Mazda & BMW using the same ABS module? So if I had a Focus/Fusion or a BMW 3 series or a Mazda 3 of the same age, I’d pretty much be in the same boat. All the car manufacturers use components from the same people. Like the DMFs and coil packs that both VAG and Ford got a kicking over.

    The problem here isn’t one brand: it’s complication (and legally mandated complication in the case of ABS). Drive anything newish, and one or more of the ECUs will throw a code after a few miles just on the basis of component count, and soon no-one will have any choice, unless you keep a 1990s car on the road for ever: all these components are in *every* car now and they’re all made in the same place. Every car on the road will have electronices by Valeo, Hella, Bosch, Magnetti Marielli, or ATE.

    The only way to escape this is to buy a simple old nail and drive it into the ground, or spend £££ and change your car every 3 years. I think I can bear only 2 non-consumable failures in 4 years and 46k miles. If this is the start of serial failures, then it will be time to change, but the ABS unit is a common fail.

    Oh, little chance of a coil pack or o2 sensor failing on a diesel…..

  3. Willenhall Lad Says:

    All sadly true. I expect the “consumables” to be part of running the car but things like the windows falling out (as happened on the Skoda) just add to the general VAG’s expense. VAG parts are generally more expensive I’ve found. My sister is having these problems with her petrol five year old Golf.

    You VAG may not have a coil pack but I bet the injectors are a right price….TBC

  4. stymaster Says:

    The injectors are scary expensive, but then, so are the CR ones in any modern diesel.

    You have to remember all cars have weak points that fall into non-consumables though, and while VAG dealer parts are expensive, ECP and Euro usually have the common parts cheap enough. I think you’ll find that it’s not VAG, it’s just cars in general, and sometimes you’re unlucky.